Jun 25, 2026

Season 1. Episode 1. Unscripted with Zaheer Ali

Zaheer Ali has built instruments for NASA, run shots at a laser fusion lab, and helped found a national center for nuclear security. Now he's an AI entrepreneur building the first true Space MBA. In this opener, he and Jeff get into where AI is real and where it's hype, why most businesses treat it like fairy dust, what actually makes AI work inside materials discovery and dealmaking, and how a practicing Stoic thinks about governing technology we can't fully control. A wide-ranging first conversation on AI, space, and staying clear-headed in the noise.

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